Allusively Cryptic

Another kind of clue that creates frustration for cryptic crossword solvers are those that are only an indirect allusion to the answer. They indirectly refer to something else, and without that something else (or noticing that something else), the clue is unsolvable. There is no mechanism within the clue to assist the solving. You just need to realise the link.

Two brilliant examples appeared today:

1) As lately burnt by students? (8,3)

2) Stormy spot for drinkers (3-3)

Both are allusions to phrases, but often a cryptician has to exhaust all other options and suddenly be inspired by the other intersecting letters to solve. As it was, without intersecting clues and realising the first was not an anagram or the latter was not related to the weather, they would have been left blank.

Clues: A good general knowledge of Australian music may aid the solving of the first, and the second is a favourite of mine.